>> To be.
>> Good afternoon. I'm sorry go ahead and get started and
called the code enforcement special magistrate
hearings to order for this March 9th 2024 no not 3/9/2024
for I'm reading off this paper and I'm like no. It is not
charged. Today 5/19/2024 was it in the 9th.
It is free it is I okay.
So we've got that part right.
And at the way the process works. You we will call the
cases, they're not necessarily called in the order of the
agenda. That's been presented. We try to
call for who has gotten here for some find it and and that
sort of thing so if you are present please realize we will
call you it just may not be in the order that you see yourself
on on the agenda. The county will go first it will present
its case, it's witnesses its evidence if you will be called
to the front. You can cross examine any witnesses that the
county has you won't be permitted to present any
evidence of your own until it is your turn to go once the
county is closed its case it will then be your opportunity
you can get any witnesses testimony evidence that you
have and I will make a decision here today as to whether there
has been a violation and what time and penalty could be
imposed if you're here for the first time you withstand have
and if you are found to have violated the county's code East
and a violation posed of up to $250 a day.
If you're here on a repeat violation, you stand to have a
penalty and the amount of $500 a day and put us. So we're
going to go ahead and get started, so we'll the first
case that we're going to call
is he
2427 C E S and Daniel Lucio
we'll come up and have a seat I think they have a package for
you.
And then go ahead and swear both of you in
do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you are about to
give to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
I do okay, thank you
okay for the record the name is Vickie Hathaway building
inspector for Seminole County building division.
>> This is in regards to case number 2427 C E S and Danielle
L Lucio
at 26 '02 Sanford Avenue in Sanford, Florida Seminole
County Florida violation charge Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one of 5.1 description of the
violation for me without the required permits.
It's a screen shot of the initial inspection that took
place on 5, 8, of 23 notice of the respondent went out on 5,
9, of 23 given a compliance date of 8 for 23. Follow-up
site inspections you can see there the following all
inspections via computer as well results of the inspection
the violations store remains on the property
was that a property appraiser screen that shows that Daniel
Lucio is the owner of the property.
Excuse me.
These are pictures of the violation of the fray mean that
remains on that was taken on 5, 8, of 24.
This is and that is that was posted on the property at the
front door on for 26 to 24.
This is photos of the unpermitted framing the notice
of violation posted and taken on 5, 9, of 23.
But as a permitted framing of the property, a violation taken
on 5, 9, of 23.
Again photos of the framing that was down on 7.21 of 23.
But as opposed to the final letter due to return certified
mail taken on 9 1123.
And this is the property. The permit permitting screen
that shows that no permits have been issued to correct the
violation to date
copy the permit application dated on 5.20 to 23.
This is a copy of the Seminole County chapter 40 appendix a
regarding the permitting process.
A recommendation based on the testimony and evidence
presented in the case number 2427 see esm it's determined
that the respondent is the record owner of the property
located at 26 '02 Sanford Avenue in Sanford in Seminole
County is determined by the property appraiser's records
and possession or control the property and my elation of the
Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one of
5.1.
It's further recommended that the special magistrate ordered
the respondent to correct the violation on or before July
10th of 2024 in order to correct the violation the
respondent shall obtain the required permits for the cited
violation at the respondent does not comply with the order
a fine of $50 will be imposed for each day, the violation
continues or is repeated after compliance respondent must
contact the inspector to verify compliance. This concludes my
case.
>> We'd like to submit the light on okay, yeah, and you
have any objection to the packet that's been presented to
you and shown being presented into evidence.
>> This is my property, the
I letter and she came out.
>> In all that is certainly I'll let you do that in a
second do you have any objection to pack it being
something it into evidence occasional okay, it will be
submitted if you can go ahead.
>> No I I letter and what happened is I
I got this property years ago. And I've got multiple
permits for it.
And I was trying to clean up permits when this all happened
from the previous owner.
That was for a clean room and the building to the other
building that was behind this bill.
For the framing
any out she
to come out and check that the building was that that it was
never done so.
She signed off on it and but she had put this
violation for framing
which I had that was there when I got the place and I had
gotten multiple permits and inspected and many times
before. She even came out
and
and then says that the framing was inspected and how I got I
got drawings
architectural drawings presented on.
And it's got to go through I was I've talked to
everything you need to get together to get the permit.
For this.
It's just I haven't done it I don't use the building.
Basically it's just sitting there.
I never even knew there was a problem.
When we look at the a different building on the property and
and the building that
the violations on has had multiple inspections, nobody
ever said anything.
Before this so I was like shocked that it happened
for one and if I could just go in there and sign for the
permit.
Come look at it, I don't have a problem with the look I invited
her and to take the pictures that you see on the on the
street.
>> Okay I can clear that up okay we did have inspections on
the property, not for the framing the last inspector who
was out there on the property was Austin young
and he told him this framing is not permitted it needs to be
permitted.
I don't know if it was him. The previous owner because
there was a lot of work that was done to this building.
Other things had permit the framing wasn't. He bought it
when did you buy the property and daughters and 10 years this
this hour.
Well, then it's
and then his custody there that point in time and has a special
you know.
Starting tonight.
>> Okay so you do knit have you seen the evidence of him moving
forward with the permitting or.
>> I talked to him the first time I actually didn't even
recognize you, I'm sorry he does he's got a metal shop in
the back
when I pulled up to the property because I was like OK,
this building is completely transformed their work permits
for exterior work. There was 9 for the interior work.
I don't I can't tell you in the timeframe in my mind when it
hit changed, but it was very noticeable and obviously there
are permits for the exterior work just not for the interior
work and we talked about it okay.
>> It with when you went back a year ago when I originally went
out to the property and you just you just haven't done it.
For well.
>> There had been in the I guess let's start with the
gentleman that came out.
There was a frightening inspection that I had.
I went in to get the framing inspection for the building.
I haven't
closed up there was inspections on inside the building for the
electrical see multiple inspections which have been all
signed off on.
And then there was another inspection for stucco and it
was on to
2 permits and
the gentleman that signed off on the one.
It wasn't signed off it was it all worked out fine he came out
oh, yeah I remember he signed off on that from at and that
was the 1, 1, of the 2
that had not been.
One was for the office clean clean room in the building in
the back.
>> But for and raining.
>> Note for the framing was for get there was a framing for the
time for the clean office in the back which has been
resolved that's all been handled by the front office and
I had exterior work done to the building.
And I thought whenever the guy came out I opened up the whole
building I wanted him to see the whole framing of the old
building and he's like I'm not here to see that I'm here to
see the the
the 2 porches on
either side of the front of the building, the front side and
that's what he's like all. I'm not here to see that
the this house that you have to get another permit before this
and it.
>> And you say that the training was there when you
bought it, yeah, it doesn't, I mean just as a very old today,
yes, it's.
>> Then it's what looks like you guys to achieve high letter
and a look at it than there are over 10 years.
>> I said the same thing, but I mean it's closed at I can't I
it's typically not that clean in the job when I go into an
inspection.
I can't verify when the framing got there when it was done.
I do know that it was reported in the in the prior inspections
for the outside little porch area where the trusses were
that that needed to be done as well and typically, if there is
an electrician that goes in there he's not going to look at
the frightening however, they should look at it and say I
can't passes to get your framing because you've got to
have them go in order.
>> It if you would like you can look back and see when
electrical inspection was done and
it was all permitted, I did I had on the service from the
pole
to the entire building. Putin and you can look at the day.
And that was all inspected.
That was 8 years ago, the the electrical work.
>> But that that is the elected board that entire screen are
which line.
>> I team while there, I don't know which one it is but right
after I got the building night
got the electrical start there's not a cold up there
that shows us which ones elector now and much okay now.
Those are old codes. It should be for he should have a framing
on there because I had to go back and read the notes and I
called the inspector who did the portico inspection
with the trusses and the stucco the exterior and he did tell me
he goes. Yeah is a guy said you know he got it that way he said
well, I told him it needs to be on the plans as well or OK.
So, and I got.
>> A whole new engineer drawings I went in and
everybody's been very helpful as just I got to the point it's
just discourage him to be honest with you is like I don't
even use the building. And that's just it I could go in
and get a framing per man I would go do it right now and
haven't come look at it, there's nothing
I'm not trying to hide anything I was one everything looked at.
>> So if you've done that you've gotten these plans.
Is July 10.
Sufficient time for you to get your permit.
>> I would like by the end of the year that was what I call
her and this site well that was that we're now into a year.
Yeah, I I want you to be reasonable. I thought I was
being reasonable. 6 months 7 months letting going on for.
>> Since last year and it sounds to me from the testimony
that you knew that the framing needed to be permitted. Yes.
>> Okay, if I could get a permit that would be great,
I would echo pay for one now.
>> All right so what I'll tell you what I'm gonna go ahead and
I'm going to find that there is a violation of Seminole County
coach after 40 appendix a section one oh 5.1 for failure
to have a permit for framing I'm going to order that you
have the permit.
That you obtained a permit by 7/10/2024, or a fine in the
amount of a $150 a day will be imposed. Okay that I get a
little longer time than that. Well I asked you what what you
needed and I think that you are highly unreasonable and so I I
and then I ask you again, and you told me you said you were
being reasonable thought I was so I'm gonna go ahead and I
mean order July 10th and then if for some reason if you
aren't you need to come back and ask for continuance because
you're working diligently and you have done everything you
need to do and it's of no fault of yours and we will absolutely
considered at that time, thank you thank you.
Set it for this. Yes, yes Sir thank you
okay next case, 2428 C E S and let that Properties
incorporated.
With 20 can go ahead and swear you in Sir.
Sir can you raise your right hand Sardi's I serve on the
testimony, you're about to get to be the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth and can you state your name for
the record Richard Todd Wilson, thank you.
>> For the record the name is Vickie Hathaway Seminole County
building inspector for Seminole County building division.
This is a regards to case number 2428 CSM about
properties Inc at 1055 South us 1792, Longwood Seminole County
Florida, the violation charge Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one oh 5.1
description the violation installation of a new staff
tayshawn building without the required permits.
As a screen shot that shows the case summary of initial
inspection was done on 6.23 of 23.
Notice went out to the respondent on 7.12 of 23,
given the compliance date and extensions you can see here go
from 7 2423 to 11 to 23.
Follow-up site inspections are the following that goes from SA
7.12 of 23 through 2, 5, 8, 24.
Inspections via computer result of the re inspections. The
violation remains on the property. This is a copy of the
property appraiser's card that shows that
with that properties that think is the record owner of the
property.
This is a copy of the wrist received for certified return
receipt for notice of this hearing.
This is a picture. The violation on the property that
was taken on 5 8 of 24.
And then here's one of 6.23 of 23.
These are the photos of the notice of violation and stop
work order that was posted on 7.12 of 23.
That is again of the unpermitted patients off of
that were taken on a 22 of 23.
This is the screen that shows no permits applied for are
issued to correct the violation at this point time.
This is a copy that shows chapter 40 in which they are in
violation of the Seminole County chapter 40 appendix a
regarding the permitting process
recommendation based on the testimony and the evidence
presented in this case number and 2428 see esm
it's determined that the respondents are the record
owner of the property located at 1055 South us highway 1792
in Longwood and Seminole County is determined by the property
appraiser's records. He's in possession or control the
property and in violation of Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one of 5.1
is further recommended that the special magistrate ordered the
respondent to correct the violation on or before July
10th of 2024 in order to correct the violation
respondent shall obtain the required permits for the cited
violation at their response to not comply with the order.
The fine of $50 will be imposed for each day, the violation
continues or is repeated after compliance, the respondent must
take less contact the inspector to verify compliance. This
concludes my case.
She liked to submit the electronic case fallen just
record.
Do you have any objection to not any reductions and it will
be accepted.
>> As far as I go I have no issue with what is said there
about July 10th. I do have a
building permit application. So what happened was inside the
fire inspector coming also during this period and inspect
the place to me what I need for code for fire because it is an
old wood structure.
They came across some building issues and they condemn the
building on me so the building right now is condemned not
allowed to be in it not allowed to do anything and it has to do
with a rotting beam in the
in the in the roof line to correct that we literally have
to remove the entire roof.
Putin beam and rebuild it all over again so like I said,
we just received a building permit application 24 dash 6,
2, 3, o 8.
In that was Don I'm on
April 29th and the delay of all this has been because this is
such a small job and I had to have a structural engineer
draw the plans for it. It took me about 2 to 3 months to find
a structural engineer and in the process. I have Richard
Richard bills
is that the drafters that's doing it.
And Steven are cold is he stamped it.
It took about 4 months to get them to actually do it because
I knew I was being thrown on the back burner because it was
such a small job and going into the holidays, we have
everything in place and as far as my knowledge myself who is
my contractor invest design. He has submitted for permits
regarding all these issues
and by not hundreds in Sri submitted that you said you
haven't been by this past week.
That is where I stand right now with the property, I mean I
lose money every month, I'm not in there. It is a commercial
property. The president.
>> So
what we don't have any.
>> Any record of there being an application there is the PC
status is all we have there's not a permit that's issued for
the violation at this point but is there.
What's PC status plan check going to plan check so when it
gets entered and we have several cases to where people
just get the number if they were to bring the paperwork
into the counter and handed over they wouldn't be allowed
to turn of the pack it without having everything there that
because we do things electronically to make it
easier for people. It allows him to get a number and say I'm
in line. OK, so it is to do you have a way of knowing though
whether this particular application is just for the
roofer and if it includes this office and all of that sort.
I mean it's okay.
Most people, yeah I have with me I have the
well.
>> The call to tell me what that number is I also have the
stamp plans. I do not understand plans and I also has
a contract that I signed with myself to show that even with
contract with yeah, okay.
>> The permit for 24 6, 3, '08 is currently in PC status,
which is plan check. It's for structural repair only any in
the peas okay, you're mechanical electrical plumbing
citing or roofing should be done by others not related to
this violation permit number 23 1 '08, 3, 7, currently in PC
status or plan check as for installed installation in
gypsum board drywall wall ceiling and garage portion of
the building not related to this violation.
There's also another one.
23 1 '07 '02 currently on hold for electrical not related to
this violation said there several permits out there on it
nothing has moved forward yet that is correct.
>> OK, but nothing is related to this office so I went and
the the items that in this violation so I just need you to
know that so that if you're accepting of the July 10 the
day, you're aware that there's another permit that you have to
apply for that a plot that relates to this case. I will
make sure that myself it's clear that specifically but
like I said we have to actually literally remove the entire
roof.
>> And we're also pulling the metal siding off the building
and building up so it's it's a complete rebuilt will be
removing that saw fit.
>> So that's of Asia will come off and new staff a staff and
patients that is correct if these.
>> Typically for point the roof off to do structural work.
You can add that on to the permit correct because you're
going to need that for demo and then you needed to put it back
on correct, okay.
>> OK, so just as long as they spell that out they can
probably amend the permit that's there what to include
correct and and I do have it spelled out in our contract
with with a A and I think that that will satisfy the county OK
so I'll go ahead and find that there is a violation of
Seminole County code
chapter, 40 appendix a section one oh 5.1. And I will give you
until September 10 or sorry July tend to come into
compliance with and if not a fine of $50 a day will be
imposed. And I will let you know that I I do see that
you're trying to work with the county. And so that's why
you're fine amount is lower. Continue working with the
county continue communication. If you did not get one of the
keys cards get one please if you keep up that communication.
That's definitely going to benefit you as far as the
proceedings here gap that is the case with questions July
10th. Date what does that exactly is set for completion
that still have your permit issue okay, the permits issued
for that
the problem right then that should clear up that, it's OK
that's our problem at all okay.
Thank you.
And there will be some.
Thank you Sir
with that if you would like to submit you certainly are
allowed to submit into the record if what is it if you're
this is again.
>> The building permit application.
>> We will have that were so obvious make know that that is
noted for the record that that application is has in fact been
submitted again
goes largely to your Cropper aiding with the county.
Absolutely you continue that then I think that that's going
to be happy to be very successful start. Thank you.
All right the next case 2430 CS them Richard and Patricia
Rufino.
>> Go ahead and he's so has always served from the
testimony about to get to the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth. And if you oppose state your name for
the record please Richard Reeve, you know Larry Clark,
thank you
okay for the record the name is Vickie Hathaway building
inspector for some of the county building division.
This is a regards to case number 2430 CSM Richard and
Patricia Rubio Rubino.
>> At 1534 grayslake circle in Longwood Seminole County
Florida violation charge Seminole County code chapter,
40 penix a section, one of 5.1 description of the violations
to late installation of a multilevel that without the
required permits.
This is a copy of the screen that shows the initial
inspection that was Don one of 23. Notice to the respondent
went out on a 2 of 23, given compliance dates an extension
of 8 1623 8 1823 9.26 of 23,
follow-up inspections are from 9 1123 through 2, 5, 8, of 24.
Also view follow-up and computer inspections that
showed that the violations still remains on the property.
A copy of the property appraisers card that shows that
Richard and Patricia Roubini are the property owners.
A copy of the notice that was handed to the homeowner richaun
for 26 of 24.
This is a picture of the deck taken on 5, 8, of 24.
That is kind of like a wall and you see the deck is going down
to the lake there and permitted multilevel deck that was taken
on a one of 23.
These are photos that was posted the notice of violation
due to return certified mail taken on 9.11 of 23.
Again photos of the unpermitted multilevel deck taking on 10 6
of 23.
These are no permits issued to correct the violations,
however, right before I came in I looked and saw that they did
apply and there is a permit in there and PC status. It was
applied for 4.5 hours ago.
There is no paperwork in there which have already discussed
with the contractor.
This is a copy of the Seminole County chapter 40 appendix a
regarding the permitting process.
This is a recommendation based on the testimony and the
evidence presented in the case number 2430 C E S M
it's determined that the respondents are the record
owner of the property located at 1534 grayslake circle in
Longwood Longwood in Seminole County as determined by the
property appraiser's records and possession or control the
property in violation of Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one of 5.1.
As for the recommended the special magistrate ordered the
respondent to correct the violation on or before July 10
to 2024 and orders correct the violation respondent shall
obtain the required permit for the cited violation. If the
respondents do not comply with the order find a $50 will be
imposed for each day, the violation continues or is
repeated after compliance, the respondent must also contact
the inspector to verify compliance. This concludes my
presentation.
>> July to Smith the electronic he's fallen to the record.
Yes ma'am to any objection okay.
Get this resolved. We apply fly. He's got a.
>> He's working with a heart attack are detecting out plans
and everything submitted so we can do go the right way to get
this taken care of.
>> Do you see any problem with obtaining the permits by July
10.
>> I do I was thinking maybe a 120 days.
>> We just got involved with the architects so we don't know
how long it takes but
a couple months for them.
Okay, I'd like to try to just stretches far as we can
that great.
>> Does the county have an objection let me see when that
would be already given 60 that would be like September 11th.
>> I talked to the contractor and the owner because this is
the first time I've talked to owner.
He's had issues with his father up north so he wasn't home.
The contractor is known to Seminole County so we know how
to find him I gave them my car where but
he's your contractor, I didn't hire him so my suggestion is to
stay in touch with him and to just keep me in the loop as to
what's happening because I will go to bat for you if you're
working with the county. 1920 days, not impossible for
something that's that big in his backyard. That's going to
take somebody to come in after the fact it's been done and
pick up this work and want to do it. Okay so does September
11th sound reasonable yes, okay.
>> And then I will go ahead and find that there has been a
violation of Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a
section one oh 5.1 for failure to obtain the necessary
permits. I will order that you obtained the permits.
I said Tim are 11th.
And if not you will incur a fine of $50 a day again I
encourage you to continue working with the county and
making sure that they're fully aware even if you get to the
point where you're bugging them mayor calling so much that's a
good thing so
on the right track all right. Thanks.
You're on the water body you're going to need to speak to her.
On Monday.
Sure that they're registered.
>> Or I it's.
>> The next case.
2352 C E S and C S M
gene San Clemente and Desiree cast alone us.
Good afternoon can raise your right hand please do solemnly
swear or affirm the testimony you are about to get to be the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, yes and
can you state your name please jets are in custody on us.
Thank you okay for the record name is Vickie Hathaway
Seminole County building inspector.
>> This is in regards to violations Seminole County code
chapter, 40 appendix a section one of 5.1 construction without
the required permits this case was originally heard by the
special magistrate on March 14th of 2024. And order was
issued given the response of the compliance date of May 8th
of 2024 with a fine of $50 a day to approved for each day,
the property is in non-compliance and after they
visit not compliant was filed by the inspector after
inspection on April 16th of 2024 total estimated
administrative cost to process this case today totals $873.42
for both the inspector at $745.93 and the clerk at one
27.59. This concludes my case.
>> Okay so the property is in fact in compliance right now
it's OK.
And they're
we're not out of compliance for any amount of time.
Would you like to submit your electronic case found if you
have any objection to the light trying to facebook okay.
Do you understand that the county is asking for a total
costs and this case of a $173.42 to be imposed. Okay,
I mean I do I do ask if it can be waived. We try to always be
on time with everything.
We were not aware and that we will try to because we get a
hold of. The company several times too make sure that the
permit was
taking Kevin Dunn we couldn't get ahold of them for quite a
few times.
So we finally just you know have to do our own thing and to
counter out with it.
But like I said you know I do feel like we tried
to get it in compliance as soon as possible. Side. I just to
ask its I can be waived.
Did.
>> Tell me about your experience as far as contact.
Okay, I really only spoke to the the the gentleman who lives
at the House when I was posting the property.
They did have a fence permit however needed to have a
variance paperwork submitted the variance was done in
approved which they got however, the paperwork didn't
didn't make it to the county and we kept waiting and waiting
and waiting on this paperwork to be submitted for the permit.
>> So it was approved through
your system just in a different department correct.
And they did go through though, and follow through with all of
those processes correct.
I'm
I'm going to then order that the case and is in compliance
and I'm not going to order any fines. At this time in this
case, thank you for that.
>> The next case, Nicole foods.
>> 24 0 a C E S am Julian Jimenez
you state your name for the record please.
If you go ahead and state your name for the record to join him
in a cage, you raise your right hand do solemnly swear or
affirm the testimony you are about to give to be the truth,
the whole truth and nothing but the truth just thank you.
Okay for the record name is Vickie halfway building
inspector for some of the county building division.
This is a violation for Seminole County code chapter,
40 appendix a section one of 5.1 construction without the
required permits. Cases originally heard by the special
magistrate on March 14th of 2024. And order was issued
given the response of the compliance date of May 8th of
2024 with a fine of up to 50 per day to accrue for each day,
the violation continues
or as repeated after May 8th of 2024. The estimated
administrative cost to process this case today totals $663.48
for both the inspector
at $553.35 and the clerk at $110.13 this concludes my
presentation.
And the case is not in compliance at this time.
>> So we're looking to ratify or prior order of $250 a day
plus these costs okay sircy go ahead, OK. I but this property.
A year almost a year ago.
When I bought it I didn't know about these case
off that I bought it I received the letters and that now
eye contact.
The realtor
that sort of House.
He told me that on that contract erecting the flip the
House.
They fix and then I bought it so the guy was working on
getting the permit saying he was on the permits.
I try to get a hold of them, I'm going to times he wasn't
answering so I tried to call the waste too contact how these
the company.
I end up talking to I think the secretary or somebody and
office
and they say now that there were a keen on getting this
because they started departments but they never
upload because I came to find out what was in the process
because they were not as a need not I was going to take care if
I was available online able to do it myself
but they called the
these contractors and they talk to them and they said they were
going to work with me.
They already got pay for what I heard from the other part this
hour Senate staff that they paid this guy for those
payment.
Now want been talking to secretary.
I had a call the next 5.10 time for them to answer.
I mean she said that they were working on those permits I
talked to or does morning.
She said they're working on getting those permits going.
>> Mishap way have you had any contact with the respondent I
talked to him once I want to say probably last year winning
up the first notification from us.
I talked to him this morning.
There is a permit in there for alterations that plan check
which means they've been sitting there since 5, 1,
of 24 they came in.
There is a permit 2380 72 for mechanical which is an AC unit
that voided outdo the 12 day upload period.
There's another permit in there for 2383 41 for mechanical AC
unit voided out 12 day upload period.
There's a permit in there for a fence 23 7, 9, 8, 3, that
voided out 12 days upload period.
Okay, and then a permit for 23 7, 9, 9, 6, is for the windows
and door replacement that remain in plan check
application due to corrections the workflow and the plan
stopped due to over a 180 days and active.
There's also a permit for 23 1, 4, 7, 4, electrical sub panels
and breakers not a code violation related to this case.
>> So Sir the reason I'm I'm struggling here is because of
the lack of communication. And the last hearing we had
where the fine was imposed no one was present for you.
>> Yeah call from Tsai poll and eyes because I was in town I
was out of town.
>> When that they happen in the 2 men to send an email I sent
an email saying that I wasn't going to be able to be here
because I was out of town.
I didn't receive an email from him. I don't generally if there
is an e-mail that's received
actually that the county will put that in the record and they
roll, let me know
and.
>> Yeah because I call and they told me to send that e-mail
because I spoke with somebody as I was out and they told me
no just send an e-mail and I I wrote an e-mail
and said that I don't have to have a copy of that email today
you're okay, but I did and I don't know
we could send in
they used only this morning she told me that she's working
trying to get that I'm working on for I don't know which I'm
that contractor, what permit for department for the windows
and doors.
We're working on all of them, they said that we were trying
to put him over to that, but they say that he was not they
have to do is separate like defense separate and then when
those things you have to have the AC unit, the needs
permitted.
Give offense needs permitted in the windows need permit.
Yeah, those said that she said that they were counting up like
I said, but the House and tag but the House
we've got these my clothes in there with some fight.
5.22 last year.
So I didn't know anything about these when I bought the House
inferno. Well I want to work on that or I wouldn't like that
okay, but I told them I'm I'm trying to get it fixed even if
I have to do it myself, but they said that they these big
top to the guys and and the contractors and they said
they get it going to get it done. So the promise that are
in the system though that are expired because for lack of of
they are they need in a little dig summit there did you you do
any of those or are you trying to get people I I try to talk
to these contractor because supposing he got pale ready for
getting all these payment in everything that he did the
wire. Hunter PRI, now K. So now the 70 in Uganda because
I'm in your own of the property that had to sign a new contract
with them so they can get these 2 songs. But I'm like I said I
cold now I'm talking to somebody on the office because
the guy the contractor that too.
The previous order the seller give me the guy wasn't
answering the call. He's always on on I'm working on it.
I fully right back and then never called me back and think
so I had a whole different ways to try to find another person
so I can talk to
when they just give me that
the people from the office that's what can the Lady that
he's working on these permits. Okay.
So in a perfect world how long at this point does it take to
get these permits could they be received in 30 days tour.
With so is there any kind of
plans or anything like that that will have to be submitted
within them. Well, they'll have to have.
>> Survey showing where the fence is going for the that the
plot itself.
The windows they're going to the contractor should know he's
going to be required to provide the product approval forms.
And the information regarding the installation of those some
will have to be present for those inspections when that
permit is issued.
>> And for the other one is mechanical. Yeah, they can
submit that as well.
>> Okay so those are all really easy said middles that don't
necessarily require any major
architectural wreck.
>> The air-conditioning require some type of schematics with it
but and there, but they should have that should have that
okay.
>> I I appreciate that you are here today and I'm going to
take that as a sign that you're working toward getting this
done. So I am going to grant you an extension to our next
meeting
which would be June 12.
I'll give you an extension to come into compliance and and
that means that you have to obtain the apartment the
permits for all of these things you need to remain in contact
with with mishap the way at all times making sure that she
knows what you're doing
because if I see you back
and 30 days and you have an remaining contacting you
haven't followed through with any of the things that you
follow through with that I'm going to be a lot less
understanding and more likely just to impose the fines and
the costs and fees that the county is request. Okay,
I just add to the record.
>> Mister Jimenez called in on 3.12 of 24. So these working
out of town and will not be able to be at the hearing and
wanted to know if you can postpone the hearing to another
date
and it was he was clueless of the code violations as well
that was on 3.12 at 1023 43 Ruth emailed him back said she
called
Julianne to let him know that the continuance request must be
submitted to the clerk in writing in order to be
considered for review by the special magistrate. I sent him
an e-mail with Alex be copied in advising him to reply all
with the reason for the continuance request and that
was that was that
but he had given the continuance request reason in
the mail original.
We didn't get a reply that I'm aware for the original e-mail
just because he didn't send it to the right places and he
didn't email us he called the day. But there is an email in
the file as well as their yeah. I I just looked at it then it
would have to be from when he applied all that.
>> There is an email in the file from March 12 became from
him.
But I don't know
where he yeah he
I know you know it is from him because I wasn't in on that
e-mail I don't believe so he would have needed to respond to
the clerk's office.
It actually does have the clerk's office on here, okay,
and typically and you know it does happen. Yeah. The C o K
typically weeks.
My mistake, we usually asked them before the day of the
hearing too so it's like email to ahead of time.
Now certainly I I understand that but I I will note for the
record that there was an e-mail that was sent by Mister Jimenez
please keep in contact with them and if for some reason
some things not going to work
within the time period that I'm giving you by the June 12th
date if you remain in contact with them in Europe to know why
they're they're going to be a lot more they're going to let
me know. Yeah, I'm trying to.
>> And some of the numbers that I see because like I said I
didn't know anything about this and trying them to figure out
because he was their problem, but if not I came in I asked
him a brief I have to do it myself because obviously I
don't want to be and probably get rights to live this
morning.
They say they're going to work on it and they're working on a
actually she told me this morning we just need a little
bit more time.
>> Well, I appreciate you being here and I think that that is a
huge step
and you know you know the date now June 12th
that would be the hearing will be for that compliance hearing
will be on the 13th.
You need to make sure that we if you're do skiing work out of
town a lot that you schedule around that if you are going to
be here now if you're in compliance, they're going to
let you know and.
>> You're going to be fine the case because you get a letter
from us but just to clarify with you that you understand
that only what's in PC status of the alterations. So we need
to make sure the fence.
>> And all that move forward as well not just the window.
Right not to.
>> Here this guy court before game to get an update and
because I've been trying hard to know the answer to that I
had a call that I 5 times as she answered the last time.
She said I'm working on is just signing a little bit what I'm
going to buy you need I need an updated list.
So I love the color.
And that's just for the windows and the door that for
everything I want to oppose to be working on everything so I
want to yeah telling that we need it we can do just that one
of the handlers because that she has been for pictures I
sent her pictures on last week for the windows and doors at
sochi asking for
all right. Thank you thank you, thank you Sir.
It's,
we are here so.
>> 2410 CS and to touch investment homes LLC
good evening on a pillow key raise your right hand do
solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you are about to get
to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
I think you say your name for the record please Ahmed moment,
thank you.
>> For the record name is Vickie Hathaway building
inspector for some of the county building. This is a
regards to case number 20 for CS AM
I'm sorry excuse me 2410 CSM to investment homes LLC Ahmed are
Ahmed Mohamed at 3 3,000 East 20th Street Sanford, Florida,
3, 2, 7, 7, 1,
Violation charge does as Seminole County chapter 40
appendix a section one oh 5.1 construction without the
required permits this case was originally heard by the special
magistrate on March 14th at 2024. And order was issued
given the response of the compliance date of May 8th of
2024 with a fine up to 50 per day
to continue to accrue for each day, the violation continues or
is repeated after 5/8/2024 affidavit of compliance was
filed on April 30th of 2024 after reinspection on April 26
of 2024.
The estimated administrative costs are processes case today,
total $703.43 for both the inspector at 5 9830 $0.30 and
the clerk at 110. And $0.13 this concludes my presentation.
>> So I guess my only objection is I was going to ask for some
sort of run production out it was recommended that I come and
talk to you about that.
Anything could now.
Okay, I'm just glad to spend like $6,000 on a new AC unit in
and out for my time to
and this is a section home. So it's I don't make too much
money off this property.
And I just had to cough up that major expense so anything can
help.
>> Okay when this case came were or are they responsive.
Throughout that time.
>> Was there and I'm very familiar with Mister hoehmann
he's got several properties that
have had issues in the past so I mean he's been here quite a
bit and work back and forth I have so many cases that a lot
of times they'll end up talking to Ruth or Julie. He he was
probably not as fast as this one, but it was probably a lot
easier to handle that it was finished incomplete, he
complied.
Like I said I am familiar with him.
So the original and heat, I will say he does try to come in
compliance put it that way.
I'm here every day
that could be good or bad.
So.
>> My concern is that it.
You are here every day you should know that you need
permits to do things.
>> So so that so the thing is the last property it was on
Markham Woods Road and
I it was purchased like that with multiple permits opened
and I've been going back and forth for your half and that's
that's why we're so familiar to you because of that property so
we have a case that was okay, I was cleaning up. I clean the
mess is basically you know, I'm not causing us is I try not to
okay so.
>> When you acquired this property did it was it.
You needed a permit.
>> No all I wasn't told that they did have the AC unit.
I bought it like a year and a half ago 2 years ago.
>> So you didn't put in the AC unit without a permit. No choir
the property with the AC units are on this OK.
>> Also the aci if you look at the day of like the old days he
had to use red red like 2000 15 or 16 or something like that.
On the numbers on it so.
>> All right, I'm going to find that the property is in
compliance of this time and I am not going to impose a fine.
I do not want to see you back here though not having complied
if they have tried to get you to work with them, I don't see
where this was a this is the flag. So I do appreciate that
thank you I appreciate you.
The next case is 2429 CS
maximum auto Center incorporated.
Sir can you state your name for the record please Joe
primanti's okay, and the voice for you and I'm going no for
the record that I've received a limited power of attorney.
For Joseph companies. 2 up here on behalf of the
corporation maximum auto center. Well, no that the
limited power of attorney does
I'm not going to be able to pronounce his first name but
Rahm debt is the last name he is the vice president to
limited power of attorney listen as the president,
but I can understand sometimes that is a it is a note or a
statement so I will go ahead and accept it.
If you raise your right hand please do solemnly swear or
affirm the testimony you are about to get to be the truth,
the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do OK.
>> For the record that is the key Hathaway Seminole County
building inspector for Seminole County building division.
This is in regards to case number 20 for 29 C E S maximum
those that are being located at one 25 Marian Lane Castleberry
and Seminole County Florida, the violation charge Seminole
County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one of 5.1
description of the violation is installation of a chain link
fence without the required permits.
A copy of the case summary screen that shows the initial
inspection that was done on 5.31 of 23.
Notice to the respondent went out the same day given several
different compliance states. Follow up site inspections also
there are several different dates there from 23 to 24
follow-up inspections. VA computer is also the inspection
of the violation remains on the property.
So copy of the property appraiser's website that shows
a maximum auto center Inc is a property owner.
This is a copy of the notice of hearing that was handed to an
employee by the name of Christian on 4.26 of 24.
This is a violation that remains on the property,
5, 8, of 24. That is the chain-link fence, but as of the
end for mitt a chain link fence taken on 5.31 of 23.
Photos of the notice of violation posted on the
property due to the return certified mail dated on 7.13 of
23.
But as of the end for mitt a chain link fence taken on 1031
of 23.
No permits issued to correct the violation of this point
we've got a permit and PC status.
However, it's being held up because there are asking to
combine the properties
together under one name.
And then later, it's showing here that's been sitting out
there since 6.23 in the permit originally was closed due to
inactivity
this is a copy of the Seminole County chapter 40 appendix a
regarding the permitting process.
This recommendation based on the testimony and the evidence
presented in the case number 20 for 29 see esm it's determined
that the respondents are the record owner of the property
located at one 25 Marian Lane Castleberry and Seminole County
as determined by the property appraiser's records and
possession or control the property in violation of
Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one oh
5.1.
Further recommended that the special magistrate ordered the
respondent correct the violation on or before July
10th of 2024 noted, correct the violation respondent shall
obtain the required permit for the cited violation
at the respondent does not comply with the order find a
$50 will be imposed for each day, the violation continues
our repeated after compliance, the response must contact the
inspector to verify compliance. This concludes my presentation.
>> Tonight to submit the electronic case file and the
record yes ma'am you have any objection to the electronic
case file being submitted into the record no okay.
You go ahead, Sir.
>> My understanding is that the owners of maximum auto center
hired contractor.
2.
File of contain a permit and put the fence in which was
replacing an old dangerous Rusty old thing
to their knowledge he did.
And my conversations with the county is that he indeed did
but he cold one, I think it was the the for one 25 and it
should have been won 31. We're so forth because that was
done way back when it was supposed to be done he just
simply put the wrong one in
that was my understanding so I went down.
Well to this building back in October to make sure that
everything was as it should be and I was informed by a lady
that
I could that the owners could combine the 2
properties as one.
And therefore regardless of whether the permit was pulled
for one 25 1.31.
That particular fence is right in between the 2 properties.
So I filed and
as far as I understood that was the last I got before they got
for
additional information
okay, well the comments here.
>> That was sent back from injury Gates on 75 at 23 said
like these the comments combine both spots to the property
appraiser's office is shown on the survey, where P comment
once 7, 1, of 23. The survey shows. But the lots are one the
property appraiser's shows that the lots are 2 separate lots.
Repeat comments again on 7.26 of 23. The survey shows that
the lots are one property appraiser show that the lots
are 2 separate lots.
>> So you need to go to the property appraiser to do a lot
joined are.
But do you all have a county process that requires
lot Joyner.
This would be her department. So there's a little bit bigger
of an issue. That's so nice for you and your size for from the
testimony you're about to get to be the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth. I do okay in your name
from meghan's in risky for planning.
Our code
previously did not allow for fencing on vacant lots
the permit that.
This case is for is a vacant lot.
It is a
parking lot for the subject property.
Next or
because it's on the property line. So they're trying to
secure or
cars so they have 2 properties
serving a business.
So
because they put it in between the 2 lots had they pulled it
on the correct address we wouldn't be here.
Underneath and so I guess I'm having a hard time.
Green that so he was a vacant lot.
Code has changed as of April 1st okay so the short answer
is.
I don't commercial permitting
I have not read through the commercial portion of that
codes, I'm not going to speak on that currently if he wants
to go upstairs was actually planned on duty that does
commercial or are you. Upstairs right now at the right time.
The lot combination could still be done if this is currently
going to continue that business
that could still be Don those are typically done over the
counter still be achieved.
And then this would be a moot point and then they could still
pull the permit and it would still be done so they're still
a means to an end to solve this issue okay so having said that
how long does that Villa take him do showing it July 10 they
got the lot say he had to get another power attorney he came
in tomorrow, the law combination he would take that
long combination to the property appraiser's office,
the same day.
We contacted the property race office they send us an email
saying it's done.
The permit that gets uploaded to the permit portal and then
however, long it takes commercial of you 3 to 5 days
for offense. I think maximum. So
yeah for commercial review.
Typically
so,
I mean he could be done within a month that they have their
site plan and everything done already.
But I don't know if the survey needs to be redone so that
would be the contingency on how long it would take them to get
a surveyor to redo the survey that would be the contingency
and I will tell you that his power of attorney.
>> Relates to any matters of permitting or anything
whatsoever related to this these 2 addresses. So he should
be okay with this we've accepted into the record so
could we give him a copy of it so they do have another copy of
this
with power of attorney yes I do OK so you may need that to
bring to get this accomplished. And I I think it should be
sufficient for you.
But you understand what they're telling you know there are some
other.
>> Process is I do what I don't. I've got in my hand,
a lot combination zoning approval that stamped and
signed.
>> So that needs to now go to the property appraiser's office
4 to be combined.
Okay,
so it was approved, but I still have to get it approved for the
prop so we have to improve by planning and development.
But it still needs to be combined by the property.
Appraiser there iced.
>> The property appraiser is yeah they're in but not even
just different offices, he is a separate holy constitutional
officer. So it's not like the county, it's just another
County department they are talking to one another that's
it's the county has absolutely no jurisdiction over or control
over anything the property appraiser dots.
>> And then you would need a survey that shows them combined
for your comment which you have
we do need to make sure that that is this yet another
problem.
Marion Lane.
6 on part of my customers property.
The street actually 6 on their property by 6 or 7 feet.
It's not the the the the
trying to trying to think as the the.
The survey shows where the property lines lie.
A shadow of where the street is and it shows the the problem
and my understanding is there's a man I want to call them and
gentlemen because I've never heard anything before the words
out of his mouth.
He complains and calls the county on a regular basis
complaining about
this property and part of the problem is is that the road is
in the right place the road is on
these people's property.
>> When you go upstairs room to talk to staff you can ask to
speak to someone in public works. They are also on the
second floor.
Okay, so you can talk to Jim Palmer that would who you could
talk to about the right of by Jim part are yes or okay,
okay.
>> Okay, so I think that you're close enough there are asking
you to to get the permit for the fence by July 10th.
I think that that should be sufficient time for you to get
a lot. I'm joined with the property appraiser based on
that zoning that you have now correcting me. Road issue the
right away issue that's impeding on your client's
property.
That that's really going to have no bearing on the permits
so I suggest that you so go forward and get your permit,
but you can handle that separately with the county,
I'm sure they work through that with you as well.
But I'm gonna give you til July 10th.
If I know there is a violation right now for failure to have a
it it's a violation of chapter 40 appendix a section one oh
5.1 of the Seminole County code
and I'm going to give you til July 10th.
If for some reason.
You're you're not getting what you need please keep in
communication with Vicki, so that she knows if that there is
a hold out for some other reason. You know we can extend
that day if necessary, but I'd really like you to keep going
along this process and even know the right of way is that
may be an issue it's separate and apart from this. So I
needed to stay on course with the fence. And then if for some
reason you do not come into compliance by July 10th the
find that I will impose a $50 a day.
Do we have a permit
because yeah, until the lot thing is handled right, but
they did apply for a permit.
>> What you got wasn't what we call plan check, it's sitting
there waiting on these comments.
How is it close.
The workflow expired.
It's still in PC status.
>> Is that something that can be opened back up because he
has been working hard okay great to have my heart no,
but I think I need it.
>> I would like to get the contact number for you that's
what I like to hear someone who need your car. I give you mine,
if you give me what you yes because I will put this with
your file.
My check on this I'm going to be like hey you're not getting
anywhere you need to be in here by the deadline an order to ask
for additional. By additional time I think
and your Joe yes this is okay. This is a good number for you
well, you know what I like emails, there's a paper trail
and I can copy them in on it stay handle my administrative
stuff when I'm out on the road.
So I I do appreciate emails. It's a lot easier that instead
of playing phone tag okay.
All right can I just add one more comment.
Every time I call Seminole County.
4 come in here these people are wonderful to work on they
really a very nice.
>> We truly to Vicki isn't that the whole crew I mean every
time they go above and beyond I've never seen that with any
other times they were held accountable.
>> And they did not. They did not make a huge. Right they did
not pay you decided not to say at that area. I thank you so
much to a manager has good stuff you that's a mic drop.
It was very good.
>> Okay next case, 2414 CS and Michelle Garcia.
Can you raise your right hand please do solemnly swear or
affirm the testimony you are about to get to the truth,
the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Yes, that you state
your name for the record place, Michelle Brannon Garcia okay.
>> Okay for the record they is the key Hathaway Seminole
County building inspector with Seminole County building
division. This is a regards to case number 2414 CSA Michelle
Garcia at 22 '02 markwood court.
Lake Mary Florida, 3, 2, 7, 4, 6, Notice of violation the
Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section one of
5.1 construction without the required permits. This case was
originally heard by the special magistrate on March 14th of
2020 for an order was issued given the response of the
compliance date of May 8th of 2024 with a fine of 50 a $150
per day to continue to accrue for each day, the violation
continues or if repeated after May 8th of 2024.
The estimated administrative cost the processes case today
are $465.89 for both the inspector which is $355.76 and
the clerk at $110.13.
Since this concludes my presentation.
>> So first this is a this is about 2 different
can 2 different construction projects cracked
correct okay. I want to address the fence first because it's
just a little bit cleaner cut discussion so I have printouts
from the property appraiser showing the satellite images
from prior to my ownership that the fences are in saw I had no
idea that was on permit I purchased I purchased this
home, September 19th of 2019. And I have satellite image from
2017 showing the fence was already in existence.
So that aspect.
>> I'm and I can't we heard your case already and you
didn't appear.
I I
notes and reasons for that as well this is I think that I'm
not going to hear it again so I'm I'm telling you that the
reason that we're here today is because you are still in
violation and so you did not appear for the last hearing.
And I I do not have any file notice that you notify the
county to let them know why you are not here.
And so I understand you may have had a reason for that,
but you were not here. So I cannot take testimony about
the compliance issue because that case is already been
decided.
It's a today. We're here to determine whether you still are
in violation or not. And the county has file an affidavit
and provided testimony that you are still in violation today.
So do you have anything that you would like to state with
respect to the violation that excess so I have a contract
with my contractor for the work that I I was aware of that I
that I started which is the exterior door being moved
in the back.
Now
the contract that shows you know me doing this, you know
correctly and I also have a notice of the commencement that
is notarized for that being completed as well to you all
have a permit in the system and I.
>> I noticed I got I got the sense of commencement yesterday
I signed it got a notarized but I asked my contract for the
permit because I notice, there's no permit number on it.
So this is that so it's time for mitt it's even been applied
for you I just don't even I you know, this is the fact that you
waited till the day before the hearing to do it when this was
given to me yesterday I caught him and I you didn't go see
your contractor I can imagine that you went to see your
contractor back when the order was interred a mile wide and
our that's not what and he just you know what I'm doing and
that's not OK, I mean, I'm I'm I'm not company kind of okay so
I was out of town for a very long time. I had somebody
staying House that I didn't.
I was in it this is in the prior doesn't matter, but I
feel the need to express why I've been absent from the
situation essentially. I was in an abusive relationship and the
man that governor is too but was refusing
to leave my house and we actually spoke with him the
key. And
upon him notifying me that day which was July 18th.
I didn't call you directly.
And at that time and mentally I should I should have dealt with
it then I did call you and I can do anything after that.
But it was just kind of there's a lot of film on to it
get him out of out of my home, so I didn't even become aware
that there was a hearing until
excuse me March 24th, I'm okay that's my outfit.
It's it's okay haha just take a minute.
>> That's that's when he found a stop work order notice,
okay, and then pictures and how I found it wasn't on my door it
was complete out it actually been home for like a couple
weeks at that point finally to start addressing all of this.
It's just been a lot a lot just trying to play catch-up after
not being a for the better, but buddy and a half.
I was thinking tempo with my family, I'm so
I think I'm done as I was already in the process. I'm
working to rid this if you look at the the contests and my
contractor. What was earlier in March before I even found this
so.
I was aware that it was a problem, I wasn't aware that if
I just sit
wasn't working on is that wasn't actively doing any work
to the property during this entire time frame. I I thought
that like stop work order meant literally stopped staff work so
I I wasn't doing anything to move forward because I wasn't
there.
>> Okay. D have you had contact with Vicki I was taught to her
once in the event that I'm at fault. I fought for that,
it's just
you know, I just say it's been a lot OK.
What I need to do is I need you to continue to have
communication with Vicki
and I need you to understand and that despite the fact that
the fence was installed prior to your ownership different
here so responsible for getting a permit for okay, so with this
door permit that the other things that are doing I need
you to do the defense is well OK.
Does the county have an objection to do you think that
the permits can be obtained by July 10th if we give that
she's going to have to get engineer plans because she's.
>> Took out the window, I believe and you put in the door
you there that something was moved said, there's a lot of
the exteriors that says she's going to have to have some type
of plans submitted so now I'm so.
>> No I mean as you can see my my permit history, I have had
things from it before I'm not opposed to the permitting
process like it's not something that I did with
you know intention to be sneaky I just I I really didn't know
that it needed to be done because of that window, that's
what I was told I made a mistake. My my understanding
was because the window was there and it wasn't it. The
window was taken out yes and just moved right under it that
the permit was going to be necessary.
So that's why it was originally started a while back.
>> Okay, well the permit is definitely necessary for us
make it to you have something you wanted to add how would I
go about approaching it if the works complete this contractor
didn't pull permit very know tell me that's a lot.
>> My understanding is that he just inform me that your
offense is on a corner lot worse. So I'm I'm actually
going to have to leave I have a personal appointment,
but they will give you my contact information I do the
residential permit review for fences, I am more than I'm
willing to set up an appointment time with you and
go over and help people work through getting your fence
permit and getting you a variance whatever it is you
need to do to have my survey that matters I was does you're
going to need a survey so just send me an e-mail will set up a
time we can even do teams meeting it doesn't have to be
in person and will walk you through and get you set up,
however we need to get you set out to get you whatever
applications you need to get to get you through this process
for the fence permit because on the one that handles the fence
side.
>> They're going help you get through, but they need to
either. But we'll get you taken care about the times I think I
so what am I talking about time wise for something like that
sago 90 days that she's got a contractor that's willing to
work with there, but again she's still going to be
growing. So is that the contract to serve for the facts
were checked out the door the door okay, I'm I'm getting
contact or didn't charge me for drugs and permits, I'm assuming
they have them. Okay, I'm going to need a 120 because we're in
90 days for a variance at this point the cut off is tomorrow
and she's not going make that okay.
>> And then the guy you believe that the plans and everything
could be drawn by and and brought in on what she is
working on in just a 120 days.
>> I think so if she doesn't I my my suggestion would be to
give the 120 days to get the fence handled
that gives her time to find somebody who's going to come in
and do the work after the fact the work's been done okay and
at that point if she's not where she needs to be in a 120
days, you can always come in go back on the docket and asked
for additional time and let her know
but you work with me on.
>> Us and Megan so we can get you where you need to be.
>> The work has been so I was I was told that current was
pulled back when I signed right when I signed this which as
early in March this year and I know I I believe that to be a
case and then I got the sense of the commencement I know
doctors after it was signed and notarized that there was a
permit number I asked him about that this as of this morning.
When I was printing out this stuff to bring take to this so
I don't know what their response going to be to that
and carry us to see what it is, but meanwhile.
I don't know what OK and not OK so they they think it'll work
is my point.
>> They'll walk you through that walk you through every
step so inspection was my can be okay like if the works
already done well don't worry about the end of the biggest
hurdle you have is getting getting the permit. Okay when
that permits issued the violation goes away your
clients regardless of whether you pass a lot okay and I
assure you that you're not the first person that has done work
without a permit so inspections to happen all the time after
works penndot. I do have photos of every stage of a if that
helps like I tried to be is probably will do so.
Let's and we'll get there but the first stage is getting the
permit like think he said okay, so I need you to remain in
complete contact with Vicki and Megan through the entire
process because if we're back here on September 11th or on
the 12th.
And you've been working with them then there it's fine if
you need more time we can give you more time, but I need to
know that you have been working with them all times if you
can't meet a deadline.
The county needs to know because then I get that
information if for some reason you cannot be here you need to
contact them and let them know so that we can make sure that
it's on the record y okay, okay, something to go ahead and
continue or give you an extension until September 11th
and everything else in the case will remain the same the
compliance here will be on September 12th.
Okay, thank you.
My card air my e-mails in here
please e-mail me so I can copy and
just through can join he get mad men.
>> We'll get you in touch with Megan if there's any holdup
we'll let you know you need to do so you can prepare for the
magistrate.
Thank you thank you.
>> Now that makes K s.
I did it but I think it I got it.
We had hoped, and I think the worst.
Well we're has to.
And it's this too
never to use that's the findings Megan thank you so
much reaction.
Yeah, that's yes, so you're good.
It was probably mail.
So then it's both so we'll have to deal with that I'll ask just
thank you to my guests tonight.
The property.
The first one so is that what you're saying Jones right
versus Nets.
But Jones is this just a bit.
That you're not just talking about
okay.
>> Make go ahead and call the 2426 CS AM
los Campos T America LLC
and.
>> If you will for the record please. I'm Vicki explain the
address issue that's going on.
For just for the record. Yes, ma'am I'm
I'm going on the record now right for the record that is
the key Hathaway building inspector for Seminole County
building division.
For 2426 TSA and Los Campos dia America LLC this is for 3.45
Jones Avenue, which is
a little House sits behind a bar that sits on Sanford
Avenue.
Okay,
so the violation charged.
When you go back to the screen please
is Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section
one oh 5.1 description of the violation is installation of
new sighting framing Windows door without the required
permit.
>> And and tell me real quick so the is the 3.45 Jones Avenue
is that a 911 address saying address it is a pave streets.
So it's an actual County road that that is maintained I
believe it was 3.45, I've assigned for 911 purposes
because it doesn't look like I'm I'm trying to see whether
there's an active are set on Sanford Avenue. And this is a
little bit the House that is behind the bar. But it's it's
on Jones. The driveway is on there is a right way and yes,
yes as the driveway, then of like a driveway permit issued
for the Jones address.
For a driveway permit. Yeah.
>> I don't I don't get this in the system that's the right
away. It's on the paved road.
>> But I just wonder how it got the address because then in the
property appraiser it doesn't show it all as having an
address
in the property appraiser is just the whole piece is showing
as 3640 does that she and her down the new does it show how
does it.
Yeah it does show how as a. I don't know where the address
came from to be honest with you but you sent all of your
notices to the 3640 Sanford Avenue.
>> Not all of them, they shouldn't be
I posted. I think I posted this property then
because I've been there talking to the owner.
>> Because the statute requires that it be mailed to the
property address of the property appraiser
it will be the mailing address did send it to the mailing
address what.
I think you did I think what I saw was.
>> 6, 6, oh 05:00AM will drive away to Florida to use 3 to 8,
1, 8,
>> Is the mailing address that you sent the violation for the
3.45 Jones Avenue.
>> Because to drive.
You know we don't mail to the physical address it goes to
what's on the property. Okay, so maybe what would be best for
the record is if you tell me the parcel ID number into the
record because the parcel ID number will match okay.
Well, the parcel ID is on the front page here.
Can you please go to my front page.
So I have 12 dash 20 dash 30 dash 5 '09.
Dash 0, 0, 0,
0 dash 0, 3, 7, Okay,
the property, yes. I don't do the mailings know that how they
handle that especially since there's no one here I just want
to make sure we're clear on the record. I spoke to the owner I
had his car and I think it's still sitting on the dashboard
of my truck because I had to explain to him okay that he
can't do what he's doing. Okay.
Because the bar also had violations as well.
And they received a fight
and a permit their stuff okay, okay.
To my proceeding. Yes okay, thank you
case summary the initial inspection was down on a 2923
and actually they I saw the construction happening so the
building chief stop and issued a stop work order.
Notice to the respondent went out the same day getting
compliance dates you can see that are from 9 1223 to 1113 of
23. Follow-up site that sits there were several of them that
were out there from 23 to 24, follow up. Inspections via
computer from 23 to 24 results, the it inspection violation
remains on the property.
This is a copy of the property appraiser's website that shows
that last campus the America LLC or the record owners of the
property.
This is a copy of the received certified return receipt for
the notice of this hearing.
This is a copy of the received certified return for notice of
this here is a double we look for.
This is a photograph of the violation that was done on 5,
8, of 24.
This is a another picture that was taken on a 29 of 23.
And again this is the photo of the violations taking on a 29
to 23.
This is a copy of the stop work order that was issued on a 29
to 23.
This is the photos of return certified mail post on the
property dated on 10 5 of 23.
Photos of the new windows in the unpermitted citing taken on
9.21 of 23.
This is a copy show that no permits have been issued to
correct the violations.
This is a copy of the permit application that did come in
Hans 1016 of 23.
A copy of the Seminole County chapter, 40 appendix ace
section one um's penix regarding the permitting
process
recommendation based on the testimony and the evidence
presented in this case number 2426 the esm it's determined
that the respondents are the record owners of the property
located at 3.45 Jones Avenue.
And at 3 3640 Sanford Avenue in Sanford in Seminole County as
determined by the property appraiser's records in
possession of controlled the property in violation of the
Seminole County coach after 40 appendix a section one oh 5.1.
For the recommended the special magistrate ordered the
respondent to correct the violation on or before July
10th of 2024 in order to correct the violation or
Spanish o obtain the required permits for the cited
violations that the respondent does not comply with the order
find a $50 will be imposed for each day, the violation
continues or repeated after compliance, the respondent must
contact the inspector to verify compliance. This concludes my
presentation.
>> Coming up find that there is evidence to show that the
respondent was properly noticed to be here today and they're
not present enough, I know there's a competent substantial
evidence has been provided a violation of Seminole County
code chapter, 40 appendix a section one oh 5.1 for failure
to obtain the necessary permits for the installation citing
framing windows
and door on that property that has been identified by the
Seminole County property appraiser has 12 dash 20 dash
30 dash 5 '09 dash 0, 0, 0, 0, dash 0, 3, 7, a. I'm going to
give them until July 10th to come into compliance or a fine
in the amount of $250 a day will be imposed.
In the next case, 2369 C E S and Gerald Williams.
>> For the record name is Vickie Hathaway this is in
regards to case number 2369 C E S M Gerald Williams at one 31
Leon Street Altamonte Springs, Florida, 3, 2, 7, 1, 5, This is
in regards to violation of chapter 40 appendix a section
one of 5.1 construction without the required permits this case
was originally heard by the special magistrate on March
14th of 2024. And in order was issued given the response of
the compliance date of May 8th of 2024 with a fine of $50 per
day to continue to accrue for each day, the violation
continues or is repeated after May 8th of 2024. The total
estimated administrative costs to process its case today
totals $591.56 for both the inspector and the clerk we've
got a breakdown of 4.19.
And $0.3 for the inspector for the clerk, one 72, and $0.53
this concludes my presentation.
>> I'm going to find that the property located at one 31 Leon
Street announcement Springs is still in violation. After the
come the order was interred.
On 3/25/2024 for the hearing of 3/14/2024, imposing a
compliance state of a a
we're going to find that the know ratified I prior order and
impose a fine of $50 a day which will start today and will
continue to accrue until such time as the violation is comes
in to come is complied. I'm going to order that fines and
the amount of $591.56 or fees be imposed in the amount of
$591 and $0.56 and that those be paid within 30 days or they
will also be.
They will be a lien on the property along with the
violation.
Fines.
Let's call 2370 C E S them
okay, I have Sherri Burr, Ali and I have a Shelley braly it's
Shelley okay.
For the record you're ready for me to start.
>> For the record name is Vickie have to weigh Seminole
County building inspector personal County building
division. This is the regards to 2370 CSM Shelley balais
hometown palm Valley. LLC
a court corporations system this is for 3825 coconut palm
circle of you to Florida 3, 2, 7, 6, 5,
Violation Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a section
one oh 5.1 construction without the required permits. This case
was originally heard by the special magistrate on March
14th of 2024, none. Order was issued given the response of
the compliance date of May 8th of 2024 with a fine.
$100 a day to accrue for each day, the property is a
noncompliance
I'm an affidavit of compliance with fire by the inspector on
April 29th of 2024 after reinspection on April 8th of
2024.
The total estimated administrative cost to process
its case today totals $591.56 for both the inspector and the
clerk the breakdown shows for 19. And $0.3 for the inspector
and one 72.53 for the clerk this concludes my presentation.
>> Hey I remember this case and we had done this as
2 cases are I had issued 2 orders that and we had to
which are one of the orders for the news to relatively new
statute.
I think this this lady actually
but she was pretty responsive.
I understanding.
After the fact but she came in here, she is responsive.
Okay,
if you want to give any information regarding because I
don't think I have.
>> We just couldn't get in touch with her and so we kept
having to post the property property in order to let her
know.
>> Okay, so actually I have photos that went back to
February of last year.
All right, I'm going to find that the property is in
compliance and to go ahead and impose administrative costs and
the amount of $591.56
to be paid within 30 days or it will be reported as a lien
against the property.
Okay,
wants to 24.
0 for CS and Tesco will Park se we limited.
Playoff Planters.
>> For the record and is Vicki have to weigh this is regarding
building inspector Seminole County building division.
This is a regards to case number 24 '04 see esm
Tesco well apart sco T Ltd well a lot Landers Walters and Vogel
are registered agents at 1425 to school Road at sweet number
2.45 in winter Springs, Florida, 3, 2, 7, '08
violation charges Seminole County code chapter, 40
appendix a section one oh 5.1 construction without the
required permits this case was originally heard by the special
magistrate on March 14th of 2024. And order was issued
giving the respondent the compliance date of May 8th of
2024, but the fine to $50 per day to continue to accrue for
each day, the violation continues or is repeated after
May 8th of 2024. And estimated administrative cost processes
case today totals $486.98 for both the inspectorate 3,
7, 3, $176.85. And the clerk at $110.13 this concludes my
presentation.
>> Okay going to find that
>> the property owner
was ordered to come into compliance
at the hearing on
February 8 and they were given
and to all to come into compliance to find that
there has been evidence to show they are not in compliance at
this time. They go ahead and ratify my prior order and
impose the fine of $50 a day starting today and continuing
until such time as the property is brought into compliance and
I'm going to impose administrative costs the amount
of $486.98 to be paid within 30 days were it too will become a
lien against the property.
Okay, and let's go heading here, 2413. CSM what he summer
hours.
>> For the record that is the key have to weigh building
inspector for Seminole County building division. This is in
regards to case number 2413 C E S the tcm or more was it 300
Ridge Road in from Park Florida, 3, 2, 7, 3, 0,
violation of Seminole County code chapter, 40 appendix a
section one oh 5.1 construction without the required permits
this case was originally heard by the special magistrate on
March 14th of 2024. And order is issued given the response of
the compliance date of May 8th of 2024 with a fine of $150 per
day to continue to accrue for each day, the violation
continues was repeated after May 8th of 2024. The estimated
administrative cost to process this case today totals $402.62
for both the inspector at $292.49 and the clerk at
$110.13 this concludes my presentation
going to find that the respondent was ordered to.
>> Come into compliance by March. At the March 14 2024
hearing for Porter to come into compliance by 5/8/2024 and that
there is evidence that has been presented that they're not in
compliance with the order at this time, I'm going to ratify
my prior order and impose the fine the daily fine in the
amount of $150 a day starting today and continuing each and
every day here after that the violation remains I'm going to
impose administrative costs in the amount of $402.62 to be
paid within 30 days.
Or it will to the record as a lien against the property.
I believe that is all of the cases.
So we will go ahead and set our next. Hearing date. 4.
June 13th
at one 30 PM.